Comments on: Ways Women Mutilate Themselves for the Sake of Beauty http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248 Tue, 06 Jan 2009 07:59:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Gloria http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1278 Gloria Sun, 23 Mar 2008 05:50:52 +0000 http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1278 Neither of us has seen this show, and I am leery of putting too much store in people's opinions without the chance to judge for myself. So, let's hope the program delivers what the writer seems to think it does and is not as bad as how the critics describe it. Neither of us has seen this show, and I am leery of putting too much store in people’s opinions without the chance to judge for myself. So, let’s hope the program delivers what the writer seems to think it does and is not as bad as how the critics describe it.

]]> By: Kathy Nye http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1274 Kathy Nye Sat, 22 Mar 2008 20:57:07 +0000 http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1274 I read the title and this much (see below) and was turned off. To me it glorifies the use of implants. It sends a message that you need big breast in the first place, to attract a "rich" male. Just as foot binding was intended to do. --------------------------------------------- Without Breasts There Is No Paradise is the working title of an NBC drama series produced by Universal Media Studios which is in development for the 2008-2009 season.. It features the travails of a pretty young hooker, who seeks massive breast implants to attract a rich cocaine smuggler.. =============================================== There is a controversy surrounding the show too. Sin Tetas No Hay Paraíso has become famous because of the controversy it has caused. Many are upset over the negative image of Colombian culture it portrays. Critics also say that it fails to address the obsession with breast surgery and instead feeds the fantasies of males. ================================================ http://www.sfgate.com/templates/types/popunder/iii-interactive/iii-interactive.html Breast-Obsessed TV Show a Colombian Hit By JOSHUA GOODMAN, Associated Press WriterTuesday, September 19, 2006 ( I copied this , taken from the article-Kathy Nye) In newspaper columns and radio interviews, feminists and family groups have decried the show's portrayal of women as a sexist affront, more inclined to satisfy flesh-filled male fantasies than generate meaningful debate about Colombia's unrivaled obsession with plastic surgery. Catalina's catty antagonist in the series, Jessica, tells her: "What matters today is having a good pair of (breasts) — no matter if they're made of rubber, wood or stone." ====================================== I am all for stories that show the terrible times that women have with breast implants, but at what cost? Kathy Nye I read the title and this much (see below) and was turned off. To me it glorifies the use of implants. It sends a message that you need big breast in the first place, to attract a “rich” male. Just as foot binding was intended to do.
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Without Breasts There Is No Paradise is the working title of an NBC drama series produced by Universal Media Studios which is in development for the 2008-2009 season.. It features the travails of a pretty young hooker, who seeks massive breast implants to attract a rich cocaine smuggler..
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There is a controversy surrounding the show too.

Sin Tetas No Hay Paraíso has become famous because of the controversy it has caused. Many are upset over the negative image of Colombian culture it portrays. Critics also say that it fails to address the obsession with breast surgery and instead feeds the fantasies of males.
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http://www.sfgate.com/templates/types/popunder/iii-interactive/iii-interactive.html

Breast-Obsessed TV Show a Colombian Hit
By JOSHUA GOODMAN, Associated Press WriterTuesday, September 19, 2006

( I copied this , taken from the article-Kathy Nye)

In newspaper columns and radio interviews, feminists and family groups have decried the show’s portrayal of women as a sexist affront, more inclined to satisfy flesh-filled male fantasies than generate meaningful debate about Colombia’s unrivaled obsession with plastic surgery.

Catalina’s catty antagonist in the series, Jessica, tells her: “What matters today is having a good pair of (breasts) — no matter if they’re made of rubber, wood or stone.”
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I am all for stories that show the terrible times that women have with breast implants, but at what cost? Kathy Nye

]]> By: Gloria http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1272 Gloria Sat, 22 Mar 2008 19:05:07 +0000 http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1272 "Without Breasts, There Is No Paradise," is not at all propaganda for teens. It's about teenage prostitution and the poverty and drugs around it. It's about the aesthetics values that spring from such an environment. The writer, Gustavo Bolivar, said, "When I wrote it, I never imagined that such a local story could transcend. What happens is that it touches a theme that is indeed universal: the beauty based in vanity and its connection with money.... No book before had denounced in such bad terms the drug dealers, the ignorant mothers who confuse the love for their daughters with pimping, and the unscrupulous plastic surgeons." For the purposes of this blog, the program seems like it will be a strong commentary on how the plastic surgery industry is a capitalist machine, with little regard for the lives it damages or hurts as long as the business is profitable. It also seems like a terrific opportunity to talk about breast implants -- why women from all walks of life want them. There will probably be an absence of acknowledgment of how dangerous they are. But according to the synopsis of the show on Wikipedia, the heroine goes through a whole series of operations before killing herself -- so may complications will be involved? Dare we hope? “Without Breasts, There Is No Paradise,” is not at all propaganda for teens. It’s about teenage prostitution and the poverty and drugs around it. It’s about the aesthetics values that spring from such an environment. The writer, Gustavo Bolivar, said, “When I wrote it, I never imagined that such a local story could transcend. What happens is that it touches a theme that is indeed universal: the beauty based in vanity and its connection with money…. No book before had denounced in such bad terms the drug dealers, the ignorant mothers who confuse the love for their daughters with pimping, and the unscrupulous plastic surgeons.” For the purposes of this blog, the program seems like it will be a strong commentary on how the plastic surgery industry is a capitalist machine, with little regard for the lives it damages or hurts as long as the business is profitable. It also seems like a terrific opportunity to talk about breast implants — why women from all walks of life want them. There will probably be an absence of acknowledgment of how dangerous they are. But according to the synopsis of the show on Wikipedia, the heroine goes through a whole series of operations before killing herself — so may complications will be involved? Dare we hope?

]]> By: suzannabanana23 http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1251 suzannabanana23 Thu, 20 Mar 2008 15:42:57 +0000 http://beautyandthebreast.org/2008/03/19/ways-women-mutilate-themselves-for-the-sake-of-beauty/248#comment-1251 I have thought a lot about this issue. I used to imagine a campaign of beautiful stylized illustrations that showed a corseted women with a tiny waist next to a food in a beautiful skyscraper high heel next to an African woman with a disc inserted in her lip next to an American woman with impossibly large puffy lips next to the tiny feet of a Geisha. The images would be highly stylized, very feminine and beautiful -- pieces of art, each. But each image would seem impossible and would also, upon second glance, show the pain inherent in each form of this beauty. In closing, a personal story/joke. Many, many years ago I dressed as a "cyberpunk assassin" for Halloween. As part of this costume, I took apart a calculator and glued microchips to my neck. Through the evening the glue started to burn my neck, but I ignored it. When I came home, I pull the microchips off and there were large wounds all over my neck. This took many weeks to heal. When people asked me "didn't you feel the burning? why didn't you take them off sooner?" I answered honestly -- it was no more painful than high heeled shoes or heavy earrings. I didn't even think about it. The moral of that strange story is that, until that time, I didn't realize how much we suffered for our beauty. I mean, after all, at that time in my life I would wake up every night because I was so hungry, as I battled to maintain a weight that kept me in size 4's and 6's. (And I wish I could get back to those sizes - will I never learn?) Anyway -- peace to all! Suzanne I have thought a lot about this issue. I used to imagine a campaign of beautiful stylized illustrations that showed a corseted women with a tiny waist next to a food in a beautiful skyscraper high heel next to an African woman with a disc inserted in her lip next to an American woman with impossibly large puffy lips next to the tiny feet of a Geisha. The images would be highly stylized, very feminine and beautiful — pieces of art, each. But each image would seem impossible and would also, upon second glance, show the pain inherent in each form of this beauty.

In closing, a personal story/joke. Many, many years ago I dressed as a “cyberpunk assassin” for Halloween. As part of this costume, I took apart a calculator and glued microchips to my neck. Through the evening the glue started to burn my neck, but I ignored it. When I came home, I pull the microchips off and there were large wounds all over my neck. This took many weeks to heal. When people asked me “didn’t you feel the burning? why didn’t you take them off sooner?” I answered honestly — it was no more painful than high heeled shoes or heavy earrings. I didn’t even think about it.

The moral of that strange story is that, until that time, I didn’t realize how much we suffered for our beauty. I mean, after all, at that time in my life I would wake up every night because I was so hungry, as I battled to maintain a weight that kept me in size 4’s and 6’s. (And I wish I could get back to those sizes - will I never learn?)

Anyway — peace to all!

Suzanne

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